[MTGA] Sfida Agonistica Metagame (RDW)

[bowdenark]

Buonasera vi posto la lista del mio RDW , avrei bisogno di qualche consiglio per la side (e per il deck) per potermi cimentare in questa competizione
Considerate che posso riscattare : 14comune 15noncomune 6rara 3raramitica
Grazie in anticipo , ogni critica-consiglio è sempre "ben accetto"

4 Aizzatore Fanatico
4 Calcalava Ghitu
4 Piromante Viashino
3 Cecchino
3 Bizzarria Divoramagie
4 Corsa di Samut
4 Shock
4 Colpo di Fulmine
4 Illuminare la Scena
3 Stroncare la Critica
3 Frenesia Sperimentale
2 Atto di Tradimento
18 Montagna

[Rancore]

Se vuoi davvero provare questo tipo di sfida, consiglio di prendere una lista "stock" e di usare quella. Troppe delle carte che giochi sono subottimali in RDW e rischieresti di perdere solo 2000 monete. Questo ad esempio sembra essere un buon punto di partenza: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1831214#paper
Le 6 rare le spenderei nei Runaway Steam-Kin più che sul Chainwhirler (farei rispettivamente 4 e 2). In sostanza:

Togli:

3 Cecchino
3 Bizzarria Divoramagie
4 Corsa di Samut
2 Act of Treason

Metti:

4 Runaway Steam-Kin
2 Goblin Chainwhirler
4 Wizard's Lightning

Mancano due carte, che dovrebbero sostituire i Goblin Chainwhirler. Puoi tenere due Guttersnipe, che occupano un posto simile in curva, oppure andare con 2 The Flame of Keld (ma entrambe le scelte non sono quelle ottimali).

Per la side invece direi sicuramente 2 Rekindling Phoenix, poi ci vorrebbero i Legion Warboss, ma se ti mancano le rare non saprei. Un paio di Tibalt li giocherei (anche 3 nel tuo caso), 4 Lava Coil e magari la mono Fight with Fire (ma anche qui ci vorrebbe Banefire).
Considera che in una sfida come questa comunque la side è molto importante, quindi valuta bene se conviene spendere monete che potresti usare per draftare per giocare con un mazzo subottimale alla sfida più difficile che si possa fare su Arena

[bowdenark]

Molte grazie , mi hai dato delle ottime idee ^^ , detto tra noi gia essere arrivato così in così pochi giorni mi va bene

[Riot]

È durissima quella competizione! È piena di control ben fatti, se non giochi con un mazzo a posto non ti fanno fare praticamente nulla.
Io ho strappato 2 vittorie con un mazzo muri solo perché non se lo aspettava nessuno, però appena sono partito lento non cè stato scampo.
Fossi in te giocherei un tier, e cura soprattutto il side.

[bowdenark]

Grazie @Riot , sono molto curioso di vedere come paira e come si comportano post side gli oppo ,sarà... Forse ho le mie idee, sicuramente farò una esperienza.

[alvoi]

Io ci ho fatto solo un match per ora, vinto 2-1 con UG nexus contro un control. È stata una sfida tostissima, in game 3 sono riuscito a scombare nonostante l'avversario avesse Niv-Mizzet, Parun in campo che quindi mi imponeva un clock nonostante io avessi turni infiniti il mono rosso non lo vedo piazzato molto bene in bo3, soprattutto in una competizione del genere dove ci saranno praticamente solo control

[bowdenark]

Gisto per , visto che mi piace usare MTG-Arena-Tool che mi avete consigliato e che, infatti, trovo molto utile vi posto un log di una mia partita fatta contro un Control-Bolas , o come si chiama visto che sono 10 anni che sono fuori dal giro LO metto sotto spoiler per non disturbare la lettura del thread per chi non vuole I matchup il mio rdw sgangherato li ha...

Spoiler:

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10:08:09
The Vastation's turn begin. (#1)
1
10:08:09
The Vastation played <log-card id="67019">Swamp</log-card>
1
10:08:09
The Vastation casted <log-card id="67278">Divest</log-card>
1
10:08:09
<log-card id="67278">Divest</log-card> targetted bowdenark
2
10:08:10
bowdenark discarded <log-card id="67970">Guttersnipe</log-card>
-1
10:08:10
bowdenark's turn begin. (#2)
2
10:08:10
bowdenark drew <log-card id="67970">Guttersnipe</log-card>
2
10:08:10
bowdenark played <log-card id="67021">Mountain</log-card>
2
10:08:10
bowdenark casted <log-card id="66819">Fanatical Firebrand</log-card>
2
10:08:10
<log-card id="66819">Fanatical Firebrand</log-card> dealt 1 damage to The Vastation
1
10:08:10
The Vastation life changed (-1) to 19
-1
10:08:10
The Vastation's turn begin. (#3)
1
10:08:10
The Vastation drew a card
1
10:08:10
The Vastation played <log-card id="68732">Izzet Guildgate</log-card>
-1
10:08:10
bowdenark's turn begin. (#4)
2
10:08:10
bowdenark drew <log-card id="68558">Electrostatic Field</log-card>
2
10:08:10
bowdenark played <log-card id="67021">Mountain</log-card>
2
10:08:10
bowdenark casted <log-card id="68558">Electrostatic Field</log-card>
2
10:08:10
<log-card id="66819">Fanatical Firebrand</log-card> dealt 1 damage to The Vastation
1
10:08:10
The Vastation life changed (-1) to 18
-1
10:08:11
The Vastation's turn begin. (#5)
1
10:08:11
The Vastation drew a card
1
10:08:11
The Vastation played <log-card id="69393">Blood Crypt</log-card>
1
10:08:11
The Vastation casted <log-card id="68569">Lava Coil</log-card>
1
10:08:11
<log-card id="68569">Lava Coil</log-card> targetted <log-card id="68558">Electrostatic Field</log-card>
1
10:08:11
<log-card id="68569">Lava Coil</log-card> dealt 4 damage to <log-card id="68558">Electrostatic Field</log-card>
-1
10:08:11
bowdenark's turn begin. (#6)
2
10:08:11
bowdenark drew <log-card id="69243">Skewer the Critics</log-card>
2
10:08:11
<log-card id="66819">Fanatical Firebrand</log-card> dealt 1 damage to The Vastation
1
10:08:11
The Vastation life changed (-1) to 17
2
10:08:11
bowdenark casted <log-card id="69243">Skewer the Critics</log-card>
2
10:08:11
<log-card id="69243">Skewer the Critics</log-card> targetted The Vastation
2
10:08:11
<log-card id="69243">Skewer the Critics</log-card> dealt 3 damage to The Vastation
1
10:08:11
The Vastation life changed (-3) to 14
2
10:08:11
bowdenark casted <log-card id="67358">Ghitu Lavarunner</log-card>
-1
10:08:12
The Vastation's turn begin. (#7)
1
10:08:12
The Vastation drew a card
1
10:08:12
The Vastation casted <log-card id="67278">Divest</log-card>
1
10:08:12
<log-card id="67278">Divest</log-card> targetted bowdenark
2
10:08:12
bowdenark discarded <log-card id="67970">Guttersnipe</log-card>
-1
10:08:12
bowdenark's turn begin. (#8)
2
10:08:12
bowdenark drew <log-card id="67992">Shock</log-card>
2
10:08:12
bowdenark casted <log-card id="66263">Lightning Strike</log-card>
2
10:08:12
<log-card id="66263">Lightning Strike</log-card> targetted The Vastation
2
10:08:12
<log-card id="66263">Lightning Strike</log-card> dealt 3 damage to The Vastation
1
10:08:12
The Vastation life changed (-3) to 11
2
10:08:12
<log-card id="66819">Fanatical Firebrand</log-card> dealt 1 damage to The Vastation
2
10:08:13
<log-card id="67358">Ghitu Lavarunner</log-card> dealt 2 damage to The Vastation
1
10:08:13
The Vastation life changed (-3) to 8
-1
10:08:13
The Vastation's turn begin. (#9)
1
10:08:13
The Vastation drew a card
1
10:08:13
The Vastation casted <log-card id="68666">Thief of Sanity</log-card>
1
10:08:13
The Vastation played <log-card id="67588">Memorial to Folly</log-card>
-1
10:08:13
bowdenark's turn begin. (#10)
2
10:08:13
bowdenark drew <log-card id="67021">Mountain</log-card>
2
10:08:13
bowdenark played <log-card id="67021">Mountain</log-card>
2
10:08:13
bowdenark casted <log-card id="67992">Shock</log-card>
2
10:08:13
<log-card id="67992">Shock</log-card> targetted <log-card id="68666">Thief of Sanity</log-card>
2
10:08:13
<log-card id="67992">Shock</log-card> dealt 2 damage to <log-card id="68666">Thief of Sanity</log-card>
2
10:08:13
bowdenark casted <log-card id="66819">Fanatical Firebrand</log-card>
2
10:08:13
<log-card id="67358">Ghitu Lavarunner</log-card> dealt 2 damage to The Vastation
2
10:08:14
<log-card id="66819">Fanatical Firebrand</log-card> dealt 1 damage to The Vastation
2
10:08:14
<log-card id="66819">Fanatical Firebrand</log-card> dealt 1 damage to The Vastation
1
10:08:14
The Vastation life changed (-4) to 4
-1
10:08:14
The Vastation's turn begin. (#11)
1
10:08:14
The Vastation drew a card
1
10:08:14
The Vastation played <log-card id="68740">Watery Grave</log-card>
1
10:08:14
The Vastation casted <log-card id="68116">Nicol Bolas, the Ravager</log-card>
1
10:08:14
<log-card id="68116">Nicol Bolas, the Ravager</log-card> 's <log-ability id="92927">ability</log-ability>
-1
10:08:14
bowdenark's turn begin. (#12)
2
10:08:14
bowdenark drew <log-card id="67021">Mountain</log-card>
2
10:08:14
bowdenark played <log-card id="67021">Mountain</log-card>
2
10:08:14
<log-card id="66819">Fanatical Firebrand</log-card>'s <log-ability id="117109">ability</log-ability> targetted The Vastation
2
10:08:14
<log-card id="66819">Fanatical Firebrand</log-card> 's <log-ability id="117109">ability</log-ability>
2
10:08:14
<log-card id="66819">Fanatical Firebrand</log-card> dealt 1 damage to The Vastation
1
10:08:14
The Vastation life changed (-1) to 3
2
10:08:14
<log-card id="66819">Fanatical Firebrand</log-card>'s <log-ability id="117109">ability</log-ability> targetted The Vastation
2
10:08:14
<log-card id="66819">Fanatical Firebrand</log-card> 's <log-ability id="117109">ability</log-ability>
2
10:08:14
<log-card id="66819">Fanatical Firebrand</log-card> dealt 1 damage to The Vastation
1
10:08:14
The Vastation life changed (-1) to 2
-1
10:08:14
The Vastation's turn begin. (#13)
1
10:08:14
The Vastation drew a card
1
10:08:15
The Vastation casted <log-card id="68543">Plaguecrafter</log-card>
1
10:08:15
<log-card id="68543">Plaguecrafter</log-card> 's <log-ability id="121480">ability</log-ability>
1
10:08:15
<log-card id="68116">Nicol Bolas, the Ravager</log-card> dealt 4 damage to bowdenark
2
10:08:15
bowdenark life changed (-4) to 16
-1
10:08:15
bowdenark's turn begin. (#14)
2
10:08:15
bowdenark drew <log-card id="67358">Ghitu Lavarunner</log-card>
2
10:08:15
bowdenark casted <log-card id="67358">Ghitu Lavarunner</log-card>
2
10:08:15
<log-card id="67358">Ghitu Lavarunner</log-card> dealt 2 damage to The Vastation
1
10:08:15
The Vastation life changed (-2) to undefined
-1
10:08:16
The Vastation's turn begin. (#1)
1
10:08:16
The Vastation played <log-card id="68178">Cinder Barrens</log-card>
-1
10:08:16
bowdenark's turn begin. (#2)
2
10:08:16
bowdenark drew <log-card id="67934">Act of Treason</log-card>
2
10:08:16
bowdenark played <log-card id="67021">Mountain</log-card>
2
10:08:16
bowdenark casted <log-card id="66819">Fanatical Firebrand</log-card>
2
10:08:16
<log-card id="66819">Fanatical Firebrand</log-card> dealt 1 damage to The Vastation
1
10:08:16
The Vastation life changed (-1) to 19
-1
10:08:16
The Vastation's turn begin. (#3)
1
10:08:16
The Vastation drew a card
1
10:08:16
The Vastation played <log-card id="68732">Izzet Guildgate</log-card>
-1
10:08:16
bowdenark's turn begin. (#4)
2
10:08:16
bowdenark drew <log-card id="66263">Lightning Strike</log-card>
2
10:08:16
bowdenark casted <log-card id="69593">Samut's Sprint</log-card>
2
10:08:17
<log-card id="69593">Samut's Sprint</log-card> targetted <log-card id="66819">Fanatical Firebrand</log-card>
2
10:08:17
bowdenark scry 1: 1 top, 0 bottom
2
10:08:17
<log-card id="67021">Mountain</log-card> to the top
2
10:08:17
<log-card id="66819">Fanatical Firebrand</log-card> dealt 3 damage to The Vastation
1
10:08:17
The Vastation life changed (-3) to 16
-1
10:08:17
The Vastation's turn begin. (#5)
1
10:08:17
The Vastation drew a card
1
10:08:17
The Vastation casted <log-card id="67266">Cast Down</log-card>
1
10:08:17
<log-card id="67266">Cast Down</log-card> targetted <log-card id="66819">Fanatical Firebrand</log-card>
1
10:08:17
The Vastation played <log-card id="67017">Island</log-card>
-1
10:08:17
bowdenark's turn begin. (#6)
2
10:08:17
bowdenark drew <log-card id="67021">Mountain</log-card>
2
10:08:17
bowdenark played <log-card id="67021">Mountain</log-card>
2
10:08:17
bowdenark casted <log-card id="68558">Electrostatic Field</log-card>
-1
10:08:17
The Vastation's turn begin. (#7)
1
10:08:17
The Vastation drew a card
1
10:08:17
The Vastation casted <log-card id="68628">Disinformation Campaign</log-card>
1
10:08:17
<log-card id="68628">Disinformation Campaign</log-card> 's <log-ability id="121559">ability</log-ability>
1
10:08:18
The Vastation drew a card
2
10:08:18
bowdenark discarded <log-card id="67934">Act of Treason</log-card>
-1
10:08:18
bowdenark's turn begin. (#8)
2
10:08:18
bowdenark drew <log-card id="67992">Shock</log-card>
2
10:08:18
bowdenark casted <log-card id="67992">Shock</log-card>
2
10:08:18
<log-card id="67992">Shock</log-card> targetted The Vastation
2
10:08:18
<log-card id="68558">Electrostatic Field</log-card> 's <log-ability id="121494">ability</log-ability>
2
10:08:18
<log-card id="68558">Electrostatic Field</log-card> dealt 1 damage to The Vastation
1
10:08:18
The Vastation life changed (-1) to 15
2
10:08:18
<log-card id="67992">Shock</log-card> dealt 2 damage to The Vastation
1
10:08:18
The Vastation life changed (-2) to 13
2
10:08:18
bowdenark casted <log-card id="69235">Light Up the Stage</log-card>
2
10:08:18
<log-card id="68558">Electrostatic Field</log-card> 's <log-ability id="121494">ability</log-ability>
2
10:08:18
<log-card id="68558">Electrostatic Field</log-card> dealt 1 damage to The Vastation
1
10:08:18
The Vastation life changed (-1) to 12
2
10:08:18
<log-card id="69235">Light Up the Stage</log-card> exiled <log-card id="67021">Mountain</log-card>
2
10:08:18
<log-card id="69235">Light Up the Stage</log-card> exiled <log-card id="67021">Mountain</log-card>
2
10:08:18
bowdenark played <log-card id="67021">Mountain</log-card>
2
10:08:18
bowdenark casted <log-card id="67992">Shock</log-card>
2
10:08:18
<log-card id="67992">Shock</log-card> targetted The Vastation
2
10:08:18
<log-card id="68558">Electrostatic Field</log-card> 's <log-ability id="121494">ability</log-ability>
2
10:08:18
<log-card id="68558">Electrostatic Field</log-card> dealt 1 damage to The Vastation
1
10:08:18
The Vastation life changed (-1) to 11
2
10:08:18
<log-card id="67992">Shock</log-card> dealt 2 damage to The Vastation
1
10:08:18
The Vastation life changed (-2) to 9
-1
10:08:19
The Vastation's turn begin. (#9)
1
10:08:19
The Vastation drew a card
1
10:08:19
The Vastation casted <log-card id="68569">Lava Coil</log-card>
1
10:08:19
<log-card id="68569">Lava Coil</log-card> targetted <log-card id="68558">Electrostatic Field</log-card>
1
10:08:19
<log-card id="68569">Lava Coil</log-card> dealt 4 damage to <log-card id="68558">Electrostatic Field</log-card>
-1
10:08:19
bowdenark's turn begin. (#10)
2
10:08:19
bowdenark drew <log-card id="66819">Fanatical Firebrand</log-card>
2
10:08:19
bowdenark played <log-card id="67021">Mountain</log-card>
2
10:08:19
bowdenark casted <log-card id="68012">Viashino Pyromancer</log-card>
2
10:08:19
<log-card id="68012">Viashino Pyromancer</log-card>'s <log-ability id="119095">ability</log-ability> targetted The Vastation
2
10:08:19
<log-card id="68012">Viashino Pyromancer</log-card> 's <log-ability id="119095">ability</log-ability>
2
10:08:19
<log-card id="68012">Viashino Pyromancer</log-card> dealt 2 damage to The Vastation
1
10:08:19
The Vastation life changed (-2) to 7
2
10:08:19
bowdenark casted <log-card id="66263">Lightning Strike</log-card>
2
10:08:19
<log-card id="66263">Lightning Strike</log-card> targetted The Vastation
2
10:08:19
<log-card id="66263">Lightning Strike</log-card> dealt 3 damage to The Vastation
1
10:08:19
The Vastation life changed (-3) to 4
-1
10:08:19
The Vastation's turn begin. (#11)
1
10:08:19
The Vastation drew a card
1
10:08:20
The Vastation casted <log-card id="68569">Lava Coil</log-card>
1
10:08:20
<log-card id="68569">Lava Coil</log-card> targetted <log-card id="68012">Viashino Pyromancer</log-card>
1
10:08:20
<log-card id="68569">Lava Coil</log-card> dealt 4 damage to <log-card id="68012">Viashino Pyromancer</log-card>
-1
10:08:20
bowdenark's turn begin. (#12)
2
10:08:20
bowdenark drew <log-card id="67021">Mountain</log-card>
2
10:08:20
bowdenark played <log-card id="67021">Mountain</log-card>
2
10:08:20
bowdenark casted <log-card id="66819">Fanatical Firebrand</log-card>
2
10:08:20
<log-card id="66819">Fanatical Firebrand</log-card> dealt 1 damage to The Vastation
1
10:08:20
The Vastation life changed (-1) to 3
-1
10:08:20
The Vastation's turn begin. (#13)
1
10:08:20
The Vastation drew a card
1
10:08:20
The Vastation played <log-card id="67588">Memorial to Folly</log-card>
1
10:08:20
The Vastation casted <log-card id="67266">Cast Down</log-card>
1
10:08:20
<log-card id="67266">Cast Down</log-card> targetted <log-card id="66819">Fanatical Firebrand</log-card>
-1
10:08:20
bowdenark's turn begin. (#14)
2
10:08:21
bowdenark drew <log-card id="66819">Fanatical Firebrand</log-card>
2
10:08:21
bowdenark casted <log-card id="66819">Fanatical Firebrand</log-card>
2
10:08:21
<log-card id="66819">Fanatical Firebrand</log-card> dealt 1 damage to The Vastation
1
10:08:21
The Vastation life changed (-1) to 2
-1
10:08:21
The Vastation's turn begin. (#15)
1
10:08:21
The Vastation drew a card
1
10:08:21
The Vastation played <log-card id="67019">Swamp</log-card>
1
10:08:21
The Vastation casted <log-card id="68686">Connive</log-card>
1
10:08:21
The Vastation targetted <log-card id="66819">Fanatical Firebrand</log-card>
-1
10:08:21
bowdenark's turn begin. (#16)
2
10:08:21
bowdenark drew <log-card id="67992">Shock</log-card>
2
10:08:22
bowdenark casted <log-card id="67992">Shock</log-card>
2
10:08:22
<log-card id="67992">Shock</log-card> targetted The Vastation
2
10:08:22
<log-card id="67992">Shock</log-card> dealt 2 damage to The Vastation
1
10:08:22
The Vastation life changed (-2) to undefined

[Midnat]

1-2 al primo game io merfolk vs control (?)

in tutti e due i casi il tipo ha vinto perchè non riuscivo a rimuovere il suo stupido angelo con lifelink e forse perchè ho scelto male una mano d'apertura...
mi date qualche idea?
lista:

EDIT: ho già fatto una modifica alla lista. Più tardi la riposto così magari un'anima pia mi da qualche idea

[fabrimagic]

Io ho strappato 2 vittorie con un mazzo muri solo perché non se lo aspettava nessuno.

posso vedere la lista? come ti trovi con questo mazzo? è giocabile almeno in Bo1?
magari apri un altro topic se non vuoi intasare questo

[Riot]

Io ho strappato 2 vittorie con un mazzo muri solo perché non se lo aspettava nessuno.

posso vedere la lista? come ti trovi con questo mazzo? è giocabile almeno in Bo1?
magari apri un altro topic se non vuoi intasare questo

La lista la posto i prossimi gg che oggi sono a spasso e scrivere una lista col telefono è disumano.
Il mazzo in se non si comporta male ma temo sia troppo dipendente da massima allerta e soffre molto i control.

In Bo1 credo può essere abbastanza competitivo anche perché sono certo la mia lista sia molto migliorabile.
Poi personalmente non ho ancora deciso se incentrarla solo sui muri, solo sulle creature con costituzione alta o su un mix di entrambe; in tutte e tre le configurazioni ci sono un sacco di belle carte; spero possiate aiutarmi a dare linearità al mazzo.
difesa della torre fa davvero male all'oppo!